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Postby intodust72 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:13 am

Very excited to see them in Boston! I love the new material, also hoping they do the song "Bavarian Fruit Bread"!
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:37 pm

SETLIST from Oct. 8, 2017 HS&TWI show at Gundlach-Bundschu Winery, Sonoma, CA. (From the stage setlist. No songs confirmed as played)
1 Not All Our Tears
2 Salt of the Sea
3 Around My Smile
4 Sleep
5 Day Disguise
6 That Spider
7 Trouble
8 I Thought I'd Fall for You
9 Suzanne
10 Into the Trees
11 Liquid Lady
Encore:
12 Let Me Get There
13 Primitive
14 Antiquity
15 The Hiking Song
("TBC: Hiking Song" on stage setlist.)
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Someone posted this setlist to the setlist.fm site.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hope-san ... 3fb46.html
After the show they must have picked up a printed setlist from the stage. "Not All Our Tears" and "Primitive" are two titles that don't look familiar. I wonder if they're covers, or else unreleased songs -?
intodust72: No "Bavarian Fruit Bread" at Sonoma, but maybe you'll get fruit-bread-lucky when they play Boston.
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:54 am

OCT. 11, 2017 SEATTLE SHOW:
I attended the HS&TWI Neptune Theatre show in Seattle, and felt lucky to obtain an audio recording of the whole show - extra lucky 'cause during the very first song, I got "busted" by a security guard who told me that re. my recorder, I had to "put it away". Ouch. I'd been foolishly holding it openly in my hand, and the guard's view, contrary to my own, was the sign that forbade photography & video also applied to audio recording.
ut within a minute of shutting down my recorder, I pressed "Record" again, and safely "put it away" again in my shirt pocket where it discreetly recorded the rest of the show. So, all that's missing is less than a minute of the first song. I'll share the whole recording soon. So far I've upped just one song from it to youtube, here:
https://youtu.be/LlEff3U2XYk It's a cover they played of the song "Primitive" . Many may know The Cramps' version, but it's not a Cramps original. Others did it first.

The show eventful in ways both bad & good. An upset Hope quit the stage mid-set after just 6 songs, the band followed her, and it took nearly an hour for Hope to get herself back in a state to continue. She was not the least bit peeved wit the near-perfect Seattle crowd. It was other things that were preying on her mind, apparently. Col m said they'd been traumatized by the Sonoma wildfires that are still burning and have kiled many people as they saw the destruction first hand. He said fires got so close to their own tour bus, their bus was "nearly engulfed by flames." Hope said she'd also had a run-in with someone and that it "threw [her off guard." Colm said they also had to fire their entire sound crew the day before. The Portland show was that day and reportedly had terrible sound, according to audience reports.There was also mention by Colm of "interference" on Hope's ear bud monitors, a technical problem. Hope said "[I] reached my braeking point." Thankfully, she came back in a good mood and did 8 more songs. She was appreciative of Seattle's respectful audience (enthusiastic between songs, nearly silent during song), and as in 2013 with Mazzy Star at the same venue, she became friendly & chatty with the Seattle crowd. She was apologetic about the long delay. Just before the last song, she realized she had two glasses of wine on stage and handed one to a guy in the front row and clinked glasses with him!

Hope's singing was mostly very good. One complaint of mine was the bass was way too heavy in the mix on many songs, creating a boom and rumble effect that drowned out Hope's voice and the other instruments too often. In some ways, my recording sounds better than what I heard in person because my recorder doesn't allow bass to overwhelm other sounds, and guitar, voice, and drums all sound clearer than what I heard at the venue.

Colm put down his drumsticks to play glockenspiel on "Suzanne" , and play guitar on a few songs. He played the lead guitar picking on "Day Disguise."

Hope was slightly more visible this time than in 2013. Several dim purple lamps on the stage helped. I regret I got no photos. If anyone knows of any pics of the Seattle show, do let me know.

Seattle Set (same as Sonoma's, except The Hiking Son was omitted):
1 Not All Our Tears
2 Salt of the Sea
3 Around My Smile
4 Sleep
5 Day Disguise
6 That Spider
7 Trouble
8 I Thought I'd Fall for You
9 Suzanne
10 Into the Trees
11 Liquid Lady
Encore:
12 Let Me Get There
13 Primitive
14 Antiquity
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Here's a music journalist's review of the show:
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/10 ... last-night
MUSIC
Fire-Traumatized Hope Sandoval & the Warm Inventions Soothed Minds at the Neptune Last Night
by Dave Segal • Oct 12, 2017

Taking a page from the Robert Fripp handbook of audience etiquette.
The contrast between Tuesday night's King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard gig at Neptune and last night's Hope Sandoval & the Warm Inventions show at the same venue couldn't be more stark. The former: seven Aussie bros sounding as if they were playing Focus' "Hocus Pocus" after gobbling fistfuls of trucker speed. The latter: all sedate lopes, sighing guitar spangles, morose keyboard drones, and Sandoval's vocals wafting out in pacifying puffs that exist in a perpetual 3:13 a.m. state of ennui-bliss. At the King Gizzard performance, five assholes body-checked me while rushing to the front in the first 15 minutes with nary a "sorry." For the Warm Inventions, people stood or sat in rapt attention, (mostly) obeying the group's edict not to take photos or video.

Before we get to the headliners, props must be given to Daydream Machine for covering Spacemen 3's "Walkin' with Jesus" with gusto and reverence, replete with a guitarist doing Townshendian windmill strokes. (It was the only song of Daydream Machine's I caught, because public transportation.) In the gap between sets, the Rolling Stones' "Heaven" got aired twice over the PA, but that chillest of Jagger performances actually established the proper mindset for Hope Sandoval and co.

The Warm Inventions' set leaned heavily on their most recent album, 2016's Until the Hunter. (Important: Kurt Vile did not show to duet on “Let Me Get There.”) "Not All Our Tears" opened things with the opiated splendor of "Venus in Furs," its insular majesty reflecting the group's most attractive mode. (Expert spotlight-avoider Sandoval remained in darkness throughout the night. She is the anti-diva's anti-diva.)

There followed five ballads that varied ever so slightly in emphasis from spangly spookiness to narcotized beauty to gentle chug to music-box delicacy to mild tumult. I think Sandoval hit one bum note on the xylophone in the third song, and it stood out as a highlight. Lots of couples in the crowd held each other close. It was that kind of night.

And then after the sixth song, Sandoval walked off without a word. The bassist looked surprised. Drummer Colm Ó Cíosóig—famous for his galvanic sticksmanship in My Bloody Valentine—told the crowd, "We just escaped the Sonoma fire. We're still traumatized. Bear with us." He also mentioned "interference in the monitors" as a factor, and that they had just sacked their sound crew. The entire band exited and somebody put on a creepy sub-Coil track for the entire 55-minute delay. Many attendees bounced.

When Sandoval and the Warm Inventions returned, the remaining audience members enthusiastically greeted them. More ballads ensued. Some were dismally grand, some stoically wistful, some recalled spaghetti Western soundtracks, some were desultorily sultry, one—"Liquid Lady"—had the louche swagger of David Lynch's "Pink Room." The one constant was Sandoval's sullen, silken vocals, as lusciously lethargic as ever. It's not difficult to see why fans worship her.

Unless you're a total boor, Hope Sandoval & the Warm Inventions' songs ease your reality-addled mind. That is a not unimportant feat.
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:47 pm

I've upped a second song to yt from Hope's Seattle show:
https://youtu.be/BnG3Z7_X1Bo
Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions, NEW SONG, "NOT ALL OUR TEARS", AUDIO RECORDING recorded live Seattle, Oct. 11, 2017, Neptune Theatre show. Recorded and upped to yt by me. This was the first song of their set, a song I'd never heard them or anyone else play before either live or on record. A lyrics search of lyrics you can hear here turn up no known songs. So, this may be a new original song by the band.
We know its title because someone obtained a printed stage set list from the first gig of the 2017 North American tour, the one at Sonoma, CA Oct. 8 with this song title. The Seattle gig I saw followed the Sonoma setlist exactly except the last song performed at Sonoma (The Hiking Song) was omitted in Seattle.

Unfortunately, this recording of the song I've uploaded is incomplete. Its beginning and end are intact but there are three spots in the middle where portions of the song are missing. That's because I got "busted" by security for recording. I removed two short portions with the guard's loud voice telling me to put away my recorder. The other missing part is the short time between when I turned off my recorder for the guard's benefit and turned it back on again for mine and yours! Ha. I hid it in my pocket for the duration of the show as it discreetly recorded. You can hear three abrupt jumps where the recording jumps ahead to a later part of the song suddenly. I'm not sure how much is missing but I'll guess it's 30 to 60 seconds worth.

I wondered if I should upload such an incomplete song at all, but decided since it's a new song fans would like to hear, and there's no other recording I know of publicly available yet, that it's best to up it now. If someone else later ups a complete version or if I come across an intact one to share, I would remove this one. Until then, enjoy this partial version! Most of the song, four+ minutes worth, are intact in this recording . That's not bad. Much more than a snippet or clip.
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:35 am

I keep upping more songs from the Seattle show to youtube. They're easy to find at my Channel, here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Bobjb999
Also, I've added to the Bootlegs list thread a DL link for the entire 14-song Seattle show recording, plus there's a long account I wrote about the show & the recording that's on page 11 of the Boots thread.

Here's a positive review of the October 13 Berkeley show at RIFF magazine's site:
http://www.riffmagazine.com/reviews/hop ... -20171013/
I'll paste the text below:

REVIEW: Mazzy Star singer Hope Sandoval shines with The Warm Inventions in Berkeley
Staff report October 14, 2017

Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions, Hope Sandoval
BERKELEY — Hope Sandoval and Colm Ó Cíosóig have both made a name for themselves with other bands; she as the vocalist of dream pop band Mazzy Star and he as the drummer of shoegaze pioneers My Bloody Valentine. Together, they make laid-back tunes as Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions, and Friday their group played a soft and mellifluous set at the UC Theatre.

They created their unique progressive folk sound by mashing Sandoval’s signature voice and Cíosóig’s post-punk influence. Throughout the set, the band played not only the entirety of its new EP, September’s Son of a Lady, but also numerous tracks from its previous full-length album, 2016’s Until the Hunter, like “Liquid Lady” and “Let Me Get There” (minus the Kurt Vile duet; he’ll be in the Bay Area with Courtney Barnett next week), and “Trouble,” off 2010’s Through The Devil Softly.

Throughout the show, the backdrop rotated past old portrait photos from the early 1900s, which lended a hand to the ethereal vibe. The 20-minute encore ended with a fan favorite, “The Hiking Song.” Sandoval did not leave her dedicated fans disappointed.

Even on Friday the 13th, the show went off without a hitch—well, almost. The only misfortune was a single stumble during one of the earlier songs. It was nothing like what happened to fans in Seattle two nights earlier, when Sandoval walked off the stage for a nearly one-hour delay, which Ó Cíosóig attributed to the shock of barely escaping the North Bay fires. The band had played at Gundlach Bundschu Winery in Sonoma on Oct. 8.
Sandoval didn’t let Friday’s misstep slow her down, and continued with her enchanting lyrics like “Sleep sleep, until you feel desire/ Sleep sleep, until you don’t feel alone” from “Sleep,” a song from the new EP. The xylophone contrasted the dark, longing lyrics, and added a youthful longing to the sound.

San Francisco husband-wife duo Peaking Lights opened the show. The duo matched the ethereal nature and ambiance of Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions. The atmosphere the two created over a 30-minute set perfectly set the stage for the headliner. The setlist included newer tracks from 2017’s The Fifth State of Consciousness, such as “Everytime I See the Light,” as well as some older material like “Conga Blues” and “Rare Done Vibes.”
— Sara Whitham
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:51 pm

SETLIST from L.A. FONDA THEATRE Oct. 14, 2017 SHOW by Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions. Someone posted this setlist to the setlist .fm site. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/hope-san ... 3e274.html

1 Not All Our Tears
2 Salt of the Sea
3 Around My Smile
4 Sleep
5 Day Disguise
6 That Spider
7 Trouble
8 I Thought You'd Fall For Me
9 Suzanne
10 Liquid Lady
11 The Hiking Song
12 Into the Trees
13 Primitive (The Cramps cover)
14 Antiquity
15 Let Me Get There
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The L.A. setlist includes all the same songs as the band played at their first gig of the tour, Oct. 8 at Sonoma. The only difference at the Seattle show was the band played one less song. "The Hinking Song" was omitted.
However, by the next day for the Desert Daze fest, Oct. 15, the band was adding new songs to their set. A review I read which I'll post here separately mentions them playing "On The Low" and "The Peasant."
With luck, some other audience recordings will turn up and we'll get to hear live versions of more songs.
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:52 pm

REVIEW of Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions' DESERT DAZE fest set, Oct. 15, 2017 at Joshua Tree. The review covers a bunch of bands' Desert Daze sets, but has a whole paragraph on Hope's set, pasted here below. Note the reviewer mentions the band played "The Peasant" and "On The Low," two songs they didn't play earlier in the tour, so far as I know judging from setlists we know of (we know Sonoma's, Seattle's, and L.A.'s) .
https://music.mxdwn.com/2017/10/16/revi ... -and-more/
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REVIEW, QUOTE:
"The atmosphere shifted quite a bit over at the Block Stage for Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions. The former Mazzy Star front woman and My Bloody Valentine member Colm O’Ciosoig on drums formed together to create soft, haunting music. 'Hi everyone, glad you could make it,' Sandoval said shyly, never emerging from the shadow of her silhouette. The focus of their set was very much on the visuals — the big screen behind the stage showed various Victorian portraits with either waves or brush strokes moving past them, adding to the haunting imagery the songs create. She was set up at a xylophone, playing it only for a couple songs including 'Salt of the Sea.' 'The Peasant' was folk-y and dreamy at the same time, Sandoval’s voice ethereally gliding over the soft acoustic sounds. The entire stage was set with deep purple lighting, no spotlights but two standing lamps with red bulbs under their shades. Paired with the eerie backdrop, the set brought to mind witchy rituals. 'I Thought You’d Fall For Me' certainly painted a haunting picture with lyrics like “A day cast in shadows / Moonlight cast the sky.” “On The Low” was the loudest (not by much) of the set featuring Sandoval on the harmonica, closing her set for the night with a soft 'thank you.' "
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:58 pm

Here are two short VIDEO clips from Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions' Oct. 15 Desert Daze Fest set at Joshua Tree. They show part of "Into The Trees" and part of "That Spider." I found them posted on Facebook, downloaded them, joined them together, and re-upped them as a yt upload here:
https://youtu.be/Yp54BimRkYA
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Malavita » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:14 pm

Brief report of the LA gig at the Fonda (may post more later):
First of all, I am so outraged (mock outrage) they held back "The Peasant" and "On the Low" from us! Show started with "Not all our tears," a fairly driving almost Cure-ish (to me) song. I've heard two live versions of it at this point, and I felt like the Fonda version started out a little stiff, and in the course of song they kind of warmed up, found their sea legs etc. The performance was brilliant, Hope was in amazing voice, and the show reached that height of spontaneous creative sound-power where as they take leaps with altered arrangements and improvisation (Dave Brennan really shining on guitar) songs are transformed to the point that "Salt of the Sea" and "Liquid Lady," maybe the two Until the Hunter songs I had paid the least attention to are now among my favorites.
High points: Primitive, Antiquity, I Thought You'd Fall for Me.

You may have heard there was some kind of incident during "Sleep" - Hope left the stage. I had the feeling that this was due to sound? I couldn't hear Al's bass which kind of anchors the root notes of the song. Anyway, lucky for us the band returned and it was an amazing night. I was really struck by Hope's absolute integrity. She isn't beholden to any record company, audience expectations-- nothing. I hadn't really thought about that before, but I think that's pretty cool.
Also, Dirt Blue Gene's Charles Cullen isn't part of the Warm Inventions for this trek? Nevertheless, it was a full sounding, rich backdrop in terms of sound.
No words can describe how soulful Colm is as a drummer. Soulful and frenetic and musical. This is a weird comparison, but his deft touch on the toms reminds me a bit of Levon Helm.
There was some shouting from the crowd, which seemed friendly and well-intentioned enough, but it was distracting. Overall, =fantastic, mellow crowd, vibe-- I think the band was really appreciative of that.

REALLY WISH I could make it to the Acetone event (been discovering Acetone).
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Re: Hope Sandoval&TWI's TOUR,2017,TEN Oct. Shows+ONE Nov. sh

Postby Hermesacat » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:00 pm

Thanks Malavita for your first hand account/review of the L.A. show. Sounds like you had the opposite problem as Seattle had re. the bass. The bass was too often overwhelming in Seattle too often drowning out Hope & the other instruments. The bass player himself thought his bass was too loud. At one point he looked off stage to a sound guy, pointed at his bass, then pointed downward as if to say "turn my bass down." Fortunately, the too prominent low end at the venue is not apparent in my recording as my recorder corrects some for overwhelming bass, plus I made some EQ adjustments later to the audio file, reducing the low end, and boosting some higher frequencies to bring out Hope's voice and the guitars more.

Thanks for mentioning the guitar player is Dave Brennan on this tour. My guess was it was 95% odds it was him, not Charles Cullen, as Dave had, I believe, been more involved than Charles in writing and playing on the recent e.p. and the 2016 album.

I understand there were two back up singers with the Warm Inventions in L.A. I wonder who the singers were-? There were no backup singers in Seattle. I've heard audio recordings by now , and seen some videos from the L.A. show. I regretted my recording from Seattle of "Not All Out Tears" is incomplete, missing portions in the middle. Luckily a helpful fan at the FB fan Group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/6071129794/ ) is sharing via FB recordings she made of the L.A. show. She recorded all the songs but missed recording in-between song comments from the stage. Thanks to Stacy at FB, I now have an intact version of "Not All Our Tears". Once I have the entire L.A. show's songs ( she still has two to upload), I'll share the L.A. show here and probably at youtube. She recorded the show with her phone but despite the low 48kbps phone recording audio bit rate, her recordings are quite listenable.

Another FB fan Group member, William, who attended the L.A. show shot 5 videos which he shared via FB. Two of his videos are of complete songs, "I Thought You'd Fall For Me" and "Around My Smile." He invited others to use and spread them further as they like, which I'm doing.So far, I've upped to yt the two complete song videos from L.A. here https://youtu.be/7Nt6r9rWadc and here: https://youtu.be/wy6YIMfagOw
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L.A. setlist according to FB fan Group members Stacy Knutsen & Tim Cummings:

Not All Our Tears
Salt Of The Sea
Around My Smile
Sleep (she walked off stage so it wasn't performed in its entirety)
Day Disguise
That Spider
Trouble
I Thought You'd Fall For Me
Suzanne
Liquid Lady
(first encore):
The Hiking Song
Into The Trees
Antiquity
(second encore):
Let Me Get There
Primitive (The Cramps Cover)
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Philly Setlist from Oct. 18 show from a photo of the printed
setlist used on stage. Christopher Altomare at the FB Group attended and
got the photo. He also met Colm and posted a pic of himself & Colm together.

Not All Our Tears
Salt Of The Sea
Around My Smile
Day Disguise
That Spider
Trouble
I Thought You'd Fall For Me
Suzanne
Into The Trees
Liquid Lady
First encore:
Let Me Get There
Antiquity
Second encore:
Primitive
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Several FB Group members attending various shows got to meet Hope and have stuff signed. One guy at the Berkeley show got invited to the private back stage party, and got to chat with Hope for 15 minutes! Lucky guy. Privately, he told me details. He said she was not shy or reserved in person but was rather outgoing and engaging.

Re. Hope exiting the L.A. stage less than two minutes after "Sleep," I have the song recording and it sounds like she gets choked up when singing the lines about "weeping." She returned after 10 or 15 minutes and reportedly said "too many sad songs," as an explanation.

I like the sound of the backup singers that are on some of the L.A. songs. Wish Hope had brought singers to Seattle too.

Aside from his able drumming Malavita mentions, Colm plays lead guitar on "Day Disguise" on this tour (and guitar on a few other songs). He's good. I love that guitar riff. For me, it's like a soothing musical tranquilizer (as is Hope's voice on it)!
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For fans who don't follow Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions' official Facebook page, you really ought to! Hope has been more and more communicative there. She's really taken to it lately and has been posting lots of personal comments worth reading and photos worth viewing. The posts there nowadays are all in Hope's voice and in her own words, not some publicist's. https://www.facebook.com/HopeSandovalWa ... Pw&fref=nf
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