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Re: BOOTLEGS LIST with download links (Mazzy,Hope,Opal,etc.)

Postby Hermesacat » Mon May 10, 2021 8:13 pm

--Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions - obscure song (studio recording):
I LIKE YOUR BLOUSE (new, improved edit)
https://mega.nz/file/vdkjHaSQ#md47RJpwF ... JYKwzk6Ghk

I Like Your Blouse - Hope Sandoval & the Warm Inventions.

Audio extended to 2 mins.+ in length by me. This is a revised edit I made in May, 2021
replacing the earlier 2 min.+ edit I made in 2016.

Originally, this was released by the band as a short song snippet of a little over
1 minute long as the soundtrack for a video of equal brevity uploaded to
a mysterious but apparently official site of Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions,
tendriltales.com (*see interview quotes about the site, pasted below). The video
was first findable there in July or early August, 2016, and is still viewable there,
last I checked. Tendril Tales is the name of Hope's own indie label.

We know the title of the video/song is "I Like Your Blouse" because although no title
or info about it is viewable on the site, when the video's downloaded from the site
the metadata included with the video file shows that title.

One "complaint" about the excellent "Until the Hunter" album, released November, 2016,
is I've regretted this fine song wasn't included on the album, and is unavailable as
a full-length song.

Someone knowledgeable suggested Mariee Sioux may be singing on this track along with Hope
because they say it sounds like her voice singing background. I once tried asking
Mariee Sioux via Twitter if she sings on the track, but she didn't reply.
She is credited on the Until The Hunter album for contributing vocals, so it's plausible
she's also on this song released in the same time period.

The more I heard the snippet the more I liked it. The guitar, Hope's vocal melodies,
and the multiple vocal tracks create a unique, appealing atmosphere.

I thought I'd try extending the track by repeating the snippet, removing the fade
out section of "I Like Your Blouse" on the first go round, and keeping the original
fade out for the second go round, to see if I could make an audio file of it that
sounds more like a full-length song.

My audio file edit is the result of a desire to hear a full-length version of the song.
It's not the real thing, and it's not officially sanctioned (but hopefully is deemed forgivable
meddling by the song's creators). Hopefully it's a small improvement,
length-wise, over the all-too-short original snippet...Better yet would be
Hope & Colm putting the song out completed as a full-length single. It would be a beauty.

This folder includes three files (plus this text description): 1)The original video
as found at the Tendril Tales site with the 1 minute+ long song snippet
and its dandelion imagery;
2) an audio file of the 2 min.+ extended version I made in AAC format @256 kbps.
This audio duplicates the audio found on the original video which is in AAC @256 kbps;
3) an audio file of the 2 min.+ extended version in MP3 format @320 kbps.

The audio quality is improved in this 2021 edit I made.
In my prior (2016) edit I included just one audio file. It was MP3 @256 kbps.
I didn't realize at the time that MP3 format @256 kbps is somewhat inferior in audio
quality to the original audio in the video which is AAC @256 kbps.
I've since learned AAC is a more efficient format and MP3 @256 kbps is inferior
to AAC @256 kbps, though their bit rates are the same.

This time (2021) I've made an AAC version of the audio identical in format and quality
to the original audio found on the video. I've also included a second audio file in MP3
format but with a better bit rate than last time (@320 kbps vs. @256 last time).
I've not yet found a hard and fast rule stated as to how much higher a bit rate an MP3
needs to have comopared to an AAC version in order to offer comparable audio quality
to the AAC. I've set the MP3 bit rate at the max. my audio converter allows: @320 kbps.

One other small difference with this new edit is I've left slightly more space (silence)
this time between where I've ended the first go round of the song (before it fades out) and
where the second go round starts. I think it sounds better with a split second more silence
there before the guitar of the second go round starts.

My youtube upload of my 2 min. edit is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e9U7uAxmQQ
(-Bob Beatty / Hermesacat)


I LIKE YOUR BLOUSE (attempted lyrics transcription)
(You can do it, you can do it, you can do it)
I like your blouse
I like your blouse
I like your smile
(You can do it, you can do it)
I like your shoes
And all the things you do
All the while
(You can do it, you can do it, you can do it)
And you can keep everyday
(You can do it, you can do it, you can do it)
Yes, you can do it
(You can do it, you can do it, you can do it)
..........................................................
*Here's a section from Rough Trade magazine's Nov., 2016 interview with Hope & Colm
where they refer to the tendriltales.com site and say why it's been made deliberately
mysterious, QUOTE:

[INTERVIEWER]: And you're putting this out on your own label,
Tendril Tales. What's that like?

COLM: Well it's been good. We like the idea of taking
independent music into the future where it's kind of artist-
run, so we can make all the decisions we want. I guess it's
a little easier for us because we've had records out already
and we've managed to get a distribution deal which really
helps keep the whole thing operating

HOPE: We work with this graphic designer on the website but
aside from that we're involved in practically every detail.

COLM: Yeah, we put something up on the website that doesn't
have any information. It just is what it is. There's a
serious lack of mystery on the internet these days. People
give away too much information.
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Re: BOOTLEGS LIST with download links (Mazzy,Hope,Opal,etc.)

Postby Hermesacat » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:24 pm

Mazzy Star - December 19, 1996, KCRW Studios, Santa Monica, CA, Morning Becomes Eclectic show.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e1YBlk ... sp=sharing
This recording was shared via dimeadozen.org site by Dime member vacantrush.

1. Rhymes of an Hour
2. Flowers in December
3. I've Been Let Down
4. Look on Down From the Bridge
5. Blue Flower (cut - incomplete)

Mazzy Star lineup:
Hope Sandoval - vocals, harmonica
David Roback - guitar
Will (Cooper) Glenn - keyboards
Keith Mitchell - drums
Kurt Elzner - second guitar

The radio host, Chris Douridas, speaks between songs but does not interview band members. A 1993 KCRW Radio Mazzy Star live performance with the same host had interview segments with David & Hope but the two were not easy interview subjects. Hope especially was not forthcoming. In this 1996 appearance, the host appears to have dispensed completely with interviewing.
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby live-music-curator » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:02 pm

Hello, I made a recording of the 2018 Ventura show with good microphones (DPA 4063 > M10):
http://s35tjjsibx24bjtgbbhfyf2d3hx2b7hx ... 11-01.zip/
You'll need Tor to access .onion URLs https://www.torproject.org/ or Onion Browser https://onionbrowser.com/ tor2web.io may also work, but it's less reliable and insecure:
https://s35tjjsibx24bjtgbbhfyf2d3hx2b7h ... 11-01.zip/
This is my only Mazzy Star recording, but I have a Hope show somewhere (but I also have hundreds of other recordings to get through).
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby Hermesacat » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:40 am

Thanks live-music-curator for the link to your Mazzy Ventura recording. I haven't DL-ed it yet but will try to do so this week.
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby Hermesacat » Fri Feb 04, 2022 9:50 pm

Feb. 4, 2022: -Mazzy Star, November 1, 2018, The Majestic Ventura Theater, Ventura, CA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11rFPQd ... sp=sharing
Thanks go to site member live-music-curator for generously sharing his good quality recording.
I've re-upped it to Google Drive, above. This replaces a poorer quality mono phone recording available via this thread earlier.
-Also, live-music-curator shared his recording of Ora Cogan's set opening at the same Ventura show. It is here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/127uKL4 ... sp=sharing

1. Flowers in December
2. Lay Myself Down
3. Ride It On
4. Into Dust (abandoned)
5. Quiet, The Winter Harbor
6. Look on Down From the Bridge
7. She Hangs Brightly
8. Blue Light
9. Halah
10. Blue Flower
11. Fade Into You
12. Disappear
13. So Tonight That I Might See
14. Bells Ring
15. Cry, Cry
16. Rock Section

live-music-curator had a just a partial band lineup. The complete lineup is:

Hope Sandoval: vocals, tambourine, shakers
David Roback: guitar
Suki Ewers: keyboards, second guitar(?)
Paul Mitchell: violin, second guitar(?)
Paul Olguin: bass
Josh Yenne: pedal steel guitar, second guitar(?)
Derek James: drums
..................................

Most of the live show recordings found in this thread came from dimeadozen.org live show torrent sharing site.
A mazzystar.free.fr site member, hanwaker, who is active on the Dimeadozen site, says he would like to further share live-music-curator's Ventura Mazzy show via Dime, if possible. He wanted me to ask live-music-curator's permission first though. hanwaker says he'd also like to reduce volume of audience clapping between songs, if possible. Would you be okay with these two ideas for further sharing, live-music-curator?
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby live-music-curator » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:52 pm

Sure, I'm 100% fine with edits and republishing of any and all recordings I made+edited entirely myself. However I didn't find the audience clapping intrusive for this recording; maybe I've been conditioned to it. Curious which tracks + time offsets are beyond your threshold?

The audience chatter is fairly minute, and I don't think I can cut that without damaging the music. On near-field speakers, I just noticed there is some L/R phasing which might've been caused by DR compression from the venue mixer. I didn't apply any DR compression myself, wasn't close to any stack and don't recall having to turn or move around during the show.
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby Hermesacat » Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:15 am

Thanks live-music-curator. I will pass along to hanwaker what you wrote above. He asked me to pass along to you a We Transfer link for his edited version, in case you might interested in hearing what he did.

The We Transfer link expires Feb. 12, and is here: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/35338d ... 731/7aae22

Here's info he emailed me about how he edited, QUOTE:
"i worked from file to file balancing the channels and lowering the applause and raising the music i cut out some near hand clappers so the new thing might be a second or two shorter. when i tried to get the wavs to flac i somehow lost the tagging. thats why i include it in wav
the flac file set is a new tracking as i didn't like some track markers (coming in 10 secs before the music starts) on the original one.
if i am allowed to upload to dime it will be the untagged flacs i will put up"

-Maybe hanwaker will show up in this thread to leave more comments, I don't know. Or if you wanted to, you two could PM each other at this site, if you have some interest in further discussing the topic with him.
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby hanwaker » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:19 am

well hermescat quoted all necessary information.. it's up to the ears now !
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby Hermesacat » Sun May 01, 2022 2:59 am

-Mazzy Star - 2012-04-13 (UPGRADED [IMPROVED] version added April 30, 2022)
COACHELLA Fest weekend 1 pro-shot Full Set VIDEO Livestreamed on yt in 2012 . This new version is in 360p height video size, a significant improvement over the 224p height size of the previous version available
via this list. This upgraded version looks much better. It was shared in the FB fan group I'm an admin at
by group member Gordon Hobs. Thank you Gordon. In addition, the upload includes the 3 song videos from
Mazzy Star's 2012-04-20 weekend 2 that Coachella uploaded to yt in 2012 and left up for a few weeks.
Coachella weekend 2 wasn't livestreamed, but Coachella shot video and uploaded to yt selected song videos from bands' sets, including 3 from Mazzy Star. None of Mazzy Star's Coachella videos are currently on yt, as Coachella blocks attempts by you tubers to re-up them.
https://mega.nz/file/iUEFERhJ#dIUsEYNq- ... saflym2oDE
I'll paste below the info document from the upload.
.................................................................

Mazzy Star
April 13th, 2012
Empire Polo Fields - Coachella Festival, weekend 1 of 2 Mazzy Star played at.
Indio, CA
[Note April, 2022: This is an upgrade in video quality from my previous upload
I shared of the Coachella 2012-04-13 Livestream set. This improved version is 360p height video size, a significant improvement over the 224p height size of the earlier version. The notes below are by the recorder and sharer of this 360p version, mookieguy. The upgraded video was further shared in a FB group by Group member Gordon Hobs, which is where I found it. Thank you Gordon. I converted mookieguy's .ts video file to MP4. The 900kbps video bitrate and 98kbps AAC audio were retained. -Bob B./Hermesacat]

SOURCE (PRO #1):
soundboard > unknown

TRANSFER:
Youtube.com > Replay Media Catcher 4 > FLVExtract 1.6.2 > tsMuxerGUI 1.10.6

GENERATION:
Webstream > FLV [H.264 640x360, 900kbps/AAC 98kbps 44kHz] > Transport Stream

LENGTH:
51:57

NOTES:
- 900kbps quality web stream directly captured, extracted and then remuxed into a TS container. No re-encoding. 360p resolution, H.264 codec at 900kbps. 98kbps 44kHz AAC audio.

TRACKS:
1. Disappear
2. Blue Flower
3. Common Burn
4. She Hangs Brightly
5. Ghost Highway
6. Fade Into You
7. Lay Myself Down
8. Flyin' Low
9. So Tonight That I Might See

MD5 FINGERPRINTS:
f993c5327098458da78b4854a62e6dc5 *mazzy.ts

RECORDED AND TRANSFERRED BY:
mookieguy

**PLEASE DO NOT ENCODE TO LOSSY FORMATS OR SELL!**

.......................................................
More notes from Bob B./ Hermesacat:

Coachella Fest livestreamed on you tube Mazzy Star's complete Weekend-1 set, April 13, 2012, which is included in this upload. Weekend-2, April 20, 2012 was not livestreamed, but Coachella shot video and uploaded selected song videos from bands' sets. Three of Mazzy Star's Weekend-2 songs were so upped, and were left up on yt for a few weeks: Blue Flower, Lay Myself Down, and So Tonight That I Might See. Mazzy Star's 2012 Coachella videos are no longer available on you tube. Unfortunately, Coachella has been having you tube block attempts by youtubers to re-up Coachella Fest videos.

I downloaded the three weekend 2 song videos back in 2012. I'm sharing them here in this upload.
They are MP4 videos in 360p height size like the weekend 1 livestream full set.

01 Blue Flower
02 Lay Myself Down
03 So Tonight That I Might See

I believe 2012 was before the time HD video livestreams became common.
My guess years later in retrospect was Coachella likely livestreamed at 480p video quality,
and that the 360p videos I ended up with after downloading the three weekend 2 song videos, were some kind of error on my part, and a degradation in quality from the originals that were on yt.
But mookieguy who DL-ed the weekend 1 set also ended up with a 360p size video. So, maybe 360p was the original size of Coachella's 2012 livestream and uploads. But I'm not certain.
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Re: LIVE SHOWS (Mostly) RECORDINGS LIST w/download links

Postby Hermesacat » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:35 am

One of these two 1990 set lists used on stage by Mazzy Star was posted at the site here before, I believe. But I don't think the second one's been. They were useful in ascertaining correct titles to songs the band played live in 1990 but never released studio versions of by cross-referencing titles to lyrics in the songs that corressponded to titles. Some songs previously had tentative (incorrect) titles placed on them by collectors. Some the 1990 live recordings with DL links listed in this thread now have out-of-date title info with them. This post has up-to-date song titles info. Correct titles to never released songs Mazzy Star played in 1990:
-When You Were Young (This title is a line that repeats in the song, and is the beginning of the first line)
-Candle (sometimes previously referred to incorrectly as "It's a Shame". It's first line is:"Hold a candle to my face"
-Walk in the Dark . It's first line is: "I was lost in the docks." It has lines like "I strolled by the lake", and "You walk with your eyes closed to me"
-It's Over. The title is a phrase repeated in the chorus. The song is part of a 1990 Cleveland set findable in this list
-Where Did You Go (previously incorrectly referred to as "Where Did You Run To"). It was a song originally played by Hope's and Sylvia Gomez' 1980s duo Going Home. Opal (with Hope) and Mazzy Star later played it live.
-Gonna Go Wrong (a song I've not yet ever heard, but it's listed on the 1990, S.C. set list below)

If you look up these Mazzy Star song titles on you tube you will find my yt uploads of them that include lyrics transcriptions in my yt video descriptions I made after careful listenings to try to figure them out.

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